Sunday, November 25, 2007

Review of Garmin Forerunner 305

Major Update: June 25th, 2009
(I’ve completely revamped and updated this review (my most popular) to add in a ton of information about accessories, updated software and additional thoughts about the device itself now that I’ve had it nearly two years.  After such a long time, it’s still my primary training device)

It's no secret that I love my 305.  I originally wrote up this 'review' back in May 2007 a few weeks after I first got the 305 - but never published it outside a small circle of friends.  I published the original version online in the Fall of 2007, and after using the device for nearly two years now as my primary training device, I’ve now updated this review with a ton of information.

Since buying it I've used it a ‘couple’ of times.  As of June 2009 that’d officially be for 363 runs, 112 outdoor bike rides (in Aug 2008 I started using the Edge 705 for cycling primarily), 24 open water swims, and a few dozen airplane rides, hikes and other random things.  Even with all of that, there are many areas of the watch I don’t use on a regular basis (such as the little man pacing feature).  That said, I feel pretty confident I know the watch pretty well.

The box:

Inside the box there are a number of components, but of course, the major item is the watch itself and the cradle to sync/charge with.

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In addition to the watch, you’ll find a secondary wrist strap for those with smaller wrists (and a tool to change it), as well as a power charger (wall), and a USB charger.  And of course a bunch of paperwork and software.  One neat feature is the USB charger plugs into the wall charger, which means that you can also use that wall charger for charging basically any USB device (like your iPod).  Just a minor little benefit.

Here’s the wall charger unit, and the USB charger unit.

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One advantage to note with the 305 charger unit over that of the 405 unit is that the 305 charger sounds ‘clicks’ into place, whereas the 405 tends to fall out a bit easier of jostled.  A minor nit, but something worthwhile mentioning.

The cradle uses a small mini-USB connector on the 'dock', which connects to your computer via standard USB. The nice part is the cable is your standard digital camera USB cable - so you don't have to carry multiple cables on trips.  Your computers connects to this small dock (pictured below), which the device clicks into. Way easier and faster than the IR connect with the Polar devices IR connector. I was concerned about having to tote another cable around in my bag, so having it be the same is awesome.

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Many folks look at the device itself and wonder ‘is it too big?’.  And at first glance, you might think it is.  But for every friend who’s picked one up, all of them have found that the feeling of a large thing on your wrist goes away after about 30 seconds of running.  To compare different device, here’s a picture of the Forerunner 305 next to the Forerunner 405, next to my standard Nike wristwatch.  As you can see, the 405 is a bit smaller, though it lacks some of the features of the 305.  Read my full write-up on the 405 for all the deets there.

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With that, let’s get going on using the device.  After all – that’s what we got it for!

Getting Started

Prior to the 305, I used a Polar 625X for a month (before I returned it). In comparison to the Polar and calibration, the setup of the 305 is a breeze. Basically you turn it on (after a short 3 hour charge) and it asks three questions Monty Python style:

1) What is your quest (US or Metric)?
2) Do you have a separate food pod (Y/N)?
3) Do you have a cadence sensor (Y/N)

After that, you’re done.  At this point, you’re ready to start. No further calibration or dinking with is required.

I immediately went outside and went for a short half mile walk to check it out. Before I even got down three flights of stairs it had already picked up the satellites (inside) and was more than ready to go by time I got to my front door. The buttons are a little more clear in comparison to the 625X. Basically the two you actually care about are on the front (Lap, Start/Stop). The right hand side buttons are dedicated to changing the view or data displayed. The left hand buttons control a backlight (also On/Off), as well as the Mode button for navigating the menu system.

Of course, the real action is when you’re out and about exercising.  So let’s jump into it by sport.

Using it while on the run....

Like most running watches (GPS or foot pod), it will give you pace as you go along. If you’re in ‘run’ mode, it will show it to you in minutes per mile (or KM per mile), if you’re in bike mode it will show it to you in MPH. These are obviously all changeable and switchable to metric. When in operation, the watch gets divided in up to four quadrants to display information (depending on how you configure it). I typically run with pace, heart rate (HR), distance and lap time.

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The pace is generally pretty accurate, though you’ll see slight variations as you run along – no worries though, it all evens out in the software.  I generally don’t have any issues in normal trees and shorter buildings, though sometimes if I run right alongside taller buildings it will temporarily drop the connection.  But if it does temporarily 'lose you', it will recalculate your pace/distance based on last known location.  Meaning if you're traveling in a straight line (like a street) and you lose signal - it figures out where you most likely went and interpolates.  You generally don't notice this on the watch itself unless your constantly looking at it - and again the software later on simply does math between the two points.

One other feature to call out is the ability to race against at ‘little man’ at a given pace.  This is a software feature on the watch that shows you how far ahead/behind you are compared to the little man (like racing a real person) Though I don’t use it much (as I train mostly based on heart rate), it is a neat way to motivate yourself if your training solo.

While this applies to cycling as well as running, you can also program workouts into your watch.  This allows you to for example say “Keep a 8:00/mile pace for 2 miles, then switch to a 7:30/mile pace for the next two miles”, etc… You can also do it based on HR or HR zones.  I use this all the time on the bike during races.  It will beep at you when you fall out of the prescribed workouts.  I put together a detailed ‘How to’ guide on this back a bit ago, which can be found here.

One accessory you can get for the 305 that’s applicable to running is the Garmin footpad.  This footpad allows you to run indoors on a treadmill and still give accurate pace and distance data to the Garmin (any Garmin device, 305/310/405/410, etc..).  This is also great outside though for looking at your running turnover as it records that as well.  Below is a picture of it, it simply laces up inside your shoe laces:

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And here’s what some turnover data looks like in an interval set I was doing:

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The last running accessory I’ll mention is the heart rate strap.  This is of course applicable to many sports/activities, but since running is first – I’ll mention it here.  Heart rate monitors help many athletes (including myself) to train based on particular zones, ensuring we aren’t training too hard (which happens a lot) or not training hard enough (also possible).  The strap has a rubber portion that goes on your front side, and a fabric band that wraps around you.  It’s easy to wash the fabric portion and the whole thing transmits wirelessly to the 305.  The battery in it has thus far lasted me two years, so it’s pretty long lasting.  Though, it’s easy to swap out if you have to.

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On the bike….

One of the major differences between a typical bike computer and something like the Garmin is that at the end of the ride a typical bike computer will only tell you that you went X number of miles.  Whereas the Garmin will tell you exactly WHERE you went, and tons of other useful info – like hills, pace changes, HR history, etc…

Of course, out of all of these, perhaps the most fun item is to simply see where you went on a ride.  Here’s one I did in Seattle some time back:

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Though, from a training perspective one of the most valuable features is being able to analyze the ride afterwards.  To start with, being able to easily split up my ride based on different parts of the 'course'. For example - the first few miles of many of my long rides are getting out of the city streets and onto established trails - these first few miles are usually considerably slower due to stoplights.  Being able to break my ride into 'warm-up' and 'workout' is fairly helpful when evaluating my pacing over time (months). Another important factor is considering altitude changes into a ride, you may not realize for example that you’re on a false flat – and after a number of miles you’ve gained significant altitude, thus slowing your pace without making it obvious to you.

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It’s pretty amazing to look at total ascent/decent, which includes the tons of times you go up and down small hills. Beware though that it's best to use some of the altitude correction features available in software such as Sports Tracks as the native altitude sensors within the device are a bit 'liberal' due to using GPS elevation instead of a barometric altimeter.  So sometimes it’s a bit off.

With the 305 you have two basic options for mounting it to your bike.  The first option is to simply affix the watch using the wrist strap to the bike itself.  This is fine for most uses, but the rubber strap is kinda hard formed plastic and thus it might loosely spin around a bit on the handlebar.  The better option is to use the fabric wrist strap, or just simply use the bike mount, which is very cheap online.

The bike mount is pictured below, and the detachable fabric strap is pictured below that:

BikeMount_thumb1FabricStrap_thumbFinally, you can also purchase a cadence meter for the back of the bike.  This actually has two features – the first is to help you monitor your cadence and the second is to monitor your speed in case you go into a tunnel or if you’re just simply indoors on a trainer.  The cadence meter has three parts, one is a typical spoke magnet – just like any old bike computer.  The second is a crank magnet – again, just like any old bike computer.  And the third is the thing that sits between the two to read the passes from both of them.  This then wirelessly transmits it to the Garmin 305 (or any other Garmin device you may have).

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In the water swimming…

In short, you can actually use the GPS features during open water swims - I wrote up a long post on all the details about it - so go here.  But essentially you place the 305 into your swim cap (usually in a tiny Ziploc plastic baggie) and it’ll track your progress.  However, the HR strap won’t generally work (at least consistently).  The Garmin 305 specifies a underwater rating to allow it 30 minutes of time submerged at 1 meter – which is more than enough depth for your average open water swim (unless you plan to dive with it).  By using a waterproof Ziploc, you in effect extend the time to cover longer swims.

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The new Garmin Forerunner 310XT now had a much longer waterproofing time built into it, and can go down to 50m.  But the same principal applies – it still must be placed in your swim cap should you want it to track your route.  This is because while on the arm it will produce sporadic results.  The key benefit the 310XT offers is it doesn’t require a plastic baggie and is better designed for the water – minimizing some situations where 305’s have been killed through extended water submersion.

In the woods hiking…and other random things

I was up hiking in the Shenandoah National Park (instead of cycling for once) and did a very short (1.4mile) trail hike. It was basically through wooded terrain down a ravine following a waterfall. The Garmin stayed on track and was dead on with the measurements compared to what the National Park Service said the length would be. I also never lost signal in the woods. Granted, these were wimpy East Coast woods without tall pine trees like the West Coast – but a good sign nonetheless. It gave us the same distance going up as when we went down. That’s good.  However, I have found that running (or even worse - mountain biking) with tons of switchbacks tends to cause device confusion in heavily wooded areas.  You can increase the frequency of position updating - but at a serious hit to your battery.  Given how rare I use it in deep trees, I'm not worried.

Of course, hiking is just the tip of the spear with all the fun you can have with it.  How about turning it on and tracking a flight to the other side of the world?

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Yup, I’ve done that a few times.  And even though the battery only lasts 10 hours, you can easily extend that to well over 24-36 hours with this cheap little $15 device.

I’ve also used it to Geotag photos that I’ve taken while being a tourist.  I simply download the GPX file(s) afterwards, spit it through some software and I’m good to go, all my photos are quickly tagged with their exact location.  Lots of fun stuff you can do with it.

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Using it in triathlons

The major difference between a watch like the 305/310 and some of the other models like the 405/410 is multisport mode.  This means that you can switch between sports seamlessly in a triathlon.  Instead of having to change in the menu’s that you’re going from bike to run and to somehow include a transition time, it will automatically do it for you with a simple touch of the lap button.

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I wrote up a big ole How To on this that you can read through here.

Software side of life

The first edition of this review focused heavily on the software side, and I’ve kept all of that below and have updated it quite a bit to reflect all the changes in the past two years.  I think it's the software and what you can do with it more than the device itself that makes the 305 (and most Garmin devices) special.  In many ways, most of the GPS based devices all dump to GPX files and all do 'basically' the same thing: They track where you went and the exact point in time you went there.  From that - you can do a million different analytical things with that simple raw data.  It's how you utilize the software and the data that really determines if it will be a useful tool in your training or racing.

Ok, like the Polar – the native software is the weak spot. However, unlike the Polar, 3rd parties have created tons loads of software for GPS based devices (based on the GPX standard, as well as the Google standards of KML/KMS).  Sure, many of these same software suites also allow importing from Polar devices (including the GPS enabled ones), but unless you have GPS data - most of what you can upload is sorta blah.

Included Software: Garmin Training Center

I would actually say that the Polar’s native desktop software stuff is slightly better than Garmin’s default Training Center Software. Below is a screen shot of the software. This was an example of my run. You’ll note it has the usual split information at the top. I did manual splits at my mile markers (plus some other points). You can also set it to auto-split on the mile. The top line gives you the average. The part I hate about the software is the left pane. You can’t customize anything – in particular, the names of your runs. Sorta annoying. The only thing you can do is create new folders to stick stuff in. It does map as well, but it isn’t worth the 100K JPEG image for the map screen shot since it uses a 17th century map of Virginia, no satellite imagery or anything else. The graph mapping is just so-so, pictured below. You can’t change the scales, so when it makes a random mistake (such as that sky-high blue line showing me doing a 35 minute pace for 1 second), you can’t correct for it. You also can’t manually modify data points (corrections) in this software. In general you won’t use this software for much of anything, and Garmin’s noted that it’s basically end of life and replaced with Garmin Connect (which I’ll talk about in a minute).

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Sport Tracks 2.0 (aka the Best Software Ever Made - Free)
http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/

I use this software exclusively now - because it rocks and it's 100% free.  It shows me my route, as well as the usual HR/Pace/cadence/splits. It’s also got the ability to name runs and group things however I choose. Lastly, it can easily export  to .gpx and .kml – unlike the GTC (Garmin Training Center). As noted in the clicked drop-down, you can easily change map types. Because screen shots are so much cooler than words - I shall simply include a few screen shots below. 

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(A general view of a run, each of the panes next to the map has different interchangeable views)

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Web Based Software:
MotionBased.com
(Free, although more advanced features are offered for some fee)

While I mention MotionBased, you should know that as of July 2009 it’s basically going away – though it’s replaced by Garmin Connect (more on that below).

This is an online (and far more advanced) variant of the inbox Garmin Training Center stuff.  You have two options to get data onto the site – the first option is install a small application (they call it ‘agent’) that grabs it off the Garmin and pushes it to the web site. The second option is manual upload. Agent is painless and easy. Takes a few seconds to set up and it automatically uploads any workouts not already uploaded. I’m using the purely free version.

The cool thing about the MotionBased software is the ability to share out a ‘public’ section of the site. This is useful if you go for a run/ride/whatever with friends and want to show them the route afterwards - or if you just want to share a route in general.  One really advantageous thing with MotionBased is using the site to find runs/rides in areas you aren’t familiar with. Below is a quick screen shot of one of the pages, along the left hand side you can select other view panes.

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Given that MotionBased is all but retired now, for the most part you’ll want to focus on Garmin Connect instead.

Garmin Connect (Free)

Garmin Connect is Garmin’s answer to MotionBased…after they bought MotionBased.  Not really fully operational with all devices until mid-2009, it’s been a long work in progress.  But Garmin Connect is without a doubt Garmin’s direction moving forward as far as how and where Garmin device users should manage their athletic data.

Garmin Connect utilizes a small web agent that is installed on your computer to upload data (PC or Mac) from your Garmin devices to a website that you can then poke and prod at your run/bike/activity.  You’ll see many of the same functionality that you saw in MotionBased, but just with a prettier interface.  Over the past year Garmin has improved it quite a bit and eliminated many of the bugs, but I do find that it’s still a bit buggier than it should be for a primetime application that’s been around this long (dropped connections, web server errors, etc…).  To use it you simply connect your Garmin Forerunner 305 to your computer and navigate to the site where you click Upload, at which point it will connect to the device and grab your activities.  Simple and straightforward.

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It also does handy things like inform you of upcoming firmware updates:

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Like MotionBased, you can share activities with friends and analyze activities as well.  And as of June 2009, Garmin now supports all fitness devices on Garmin Connect (when it was first rolled out, it was only the newer devices). 

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Finally, like MotionBased, Connect also offers a great way to find routes in other cities through the Explore tab, allowing you to search for runs/rides/activities by city and/or name – perfect for when you are travelling and want to find a good running route.  Though at the moment, Motion Based is much more powerful in this area, as you can see below for my search for Boston Marathon, the results…kinda suck:

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In general, Garmin Connect is a good way for the casual user to easily house all of your workouts online, without worrying about losing everything if your computer dies.  But I find that for my purposes, much of the in depth analysis that I want to do is still lacking (hence why I generally use Sports Tracks or Training Peaks).

Training Peaks (free and subscription based)

Training Peaks is a web based software very similar to Garmin Connect, except it offers a bit more of a holistic view of your training plan.  The web based software is offered in a free version and a subscription version, which are detailed here.  In addition, there is also a downloadable software package called WKO+, but I haven’t played with it too much as it costs quite a bit.

One of the major reasons athletes use Training Peaks is to communicate training data to their coaches.  Training Peaks is unique in that Coaches can easily track multiple athletes from inside a console of sorts, and thus can see uploaded data from the athlete – including their Garmin 305 data.

To upload data you use a small piece of software called the Device Agent, which connects to your Garmin 305 and then grabs the data (it doesn’t delete it, it stays there).

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In general, Training Peaks is a great way to share workouts with your coach or analyze/track your entire workout/training program (including stuff like calories, resting heart rate and sleep).  For me, it’s my primary training log between me and my coach.

Last up: Google Earth

The downloadable version of Google Earth rocks. While not as useful for directly viewing athletic data (such as your HR or pace), it’s great for looking at your routes. You can easily export directly from either Motion Based or Sport Tracks to Google Earth and have it automatically open up for you. It’s like having the online Google Earth offline. You can cache up to 2GB of imagery on your local machine for review offline. I downloaded a small utility for pre-caching a specific area (such as all of DC) so I could look at stuff on the plane if I wanted to.

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The downloadable Google Earth is free.  Above and below are screen shots of it (above uses the Blue Marble NASA overlay to make it look really pretty). It will also do flyovers of your route if you click the play button on the left hand side. The cool part is tons of people have uploaded KML files for just about everything. For example, I found a .zip file with about 100 DC bike routes in KML format to load into Google Earth.  From there I can easily examine potential bike routes (or any route).

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Summary

At this point, if you made it this far and still aren't sure - I'd just go to a local store - pick one up, and give it a shot.  If after 30 days you don't like it, you can easily return it (which is what I did with my Polar).  But, I think when you combine it with software - you'll find it's quite a blast to play with and analyze data.

I've found that by using it I've been able to more accurately train and race, especially when I'm concerned with pacing (either via heart rate or speed).  I've found the cadence meter to be hugely helpful in my cycling, and the pace meter while running very useful for long runs and helping me to keep from going to fast in the beginning.

In short and in summary, I can’t recommend it enough.

Over the past 2 years, I’ve posted a TON of Garmin 305 and related posts, here’s a short list of things you may want to check out-

10 Random Tips for the Garmin Forerunner 305
How to swim with the Garmin Forerunner 305
How to ski with the Forerunner 305
How to clean the contacts on the Garmin Forerunner 305
How to download workouts to Garmin devices (all training devices)

Hope this helps out!  If you have any questions, as always simply post them below and I try to answer them within 24 hours, or feel free to e-mail me at the e-mail address on the sidebar.  Thanks!

50 comments:

Kevin November 26, 2007 5:33 AM  

Nice review. Shoot me an email and let me know which version you are using--1.3 or 2.0. If the the beta is good I will try it.

Lesser is More November 26, 2007 10:39 AM  

Great review. Do you ever wear your Garmin for triathlons? Seems like a great tool for training, but isn't practical to use in races, since it isn't water proof. Or do you just wear a simple watch to keep your splits on races and leave the Garmin at home?

I've been a Polar S625x user for a year and like it, but I can see both sides. I prefer not having all the extras you need for a Polar, but the Garmin is also bigger on the arm when you wear it.

Though, that coupon has me thinking about getting one...

Rainmaker November 26, 2007 11:18 AM  

Yup, I've used it in tri's. I set it up to auto-change sports as I go into the transition areas (I'll write about that at some point). You can actually use it for the water portion as it's waterproof to 3 feet for 30 minutes. I put it in my swim cap, here's a long post I wrote up on how to use it during the swim and for openwater swimming (and how to go beyond 30 minutes):

http://dcrainmaker.blogspot.com/2007/09/how-to-swim-with-your-garmin-forerunner.html

Laurie November 26, 2007 12:29 PM  

Great review. I LOVE my 205. I've used all of that software except Google Earth. I agree with your evaluation of Sport Tracks. It is great for tracking all of your activities, whether indoors or out.

Bruno November 26, 2007 6:23 PM  

Hum... interesting review. I thought about the Garmin, but decided to use Polar. Then I ran out of money, and instead of getting the 625X that I wanted, got the RS200sd. Good enough for me...

I've heard that Garmin is not waterproof, instead it's water resistant... Is this true?

Bruno.

Nat November 26, 2007 8:09 PM  

Wow, you did an awesome job reviewing it. I've had it for about a year and a half and love it. I can't imagine working out without it. Do you have the indoor footpod?

Rainmaker November 26, 2007 11:51 PM  

To answer a few questions:

1) The 305 is waterproof for 30 minutes up to 3 feet (per the manual). I lengthen that by simply putting it in a little ziplock bag. But sometimes I don't bother and it just goes for a swim.

2) I don't have the footpod, primarily because I can't stand running inside. I managed to only run twice on a treadmill all last year (both during ice storms), plus once when I was overseas in an unsafe area. When I do run inside though I simply just manually enter the data into Sport Tracks (distance/time), you can use the HRM monitor portion still.

Anonymous January 13, 2008 4:00 PM  

Do you know if the SportTracks software contains a graphing window that lets me look at things like pace, heartrate, speed, etc versus distance run or elapsed time? I agree with your review about Garmin Training Center...I like everything except the graphing functions as it doesn't let me change the graph's range and as a result my pace data is all squished into the bottom inch with no visibility to the variation during my run.

Rainmaker January 13, 2008 6:09 PM  

(Hopefully you'll get this response, since I didn't see an e-mail address to answer your question)

Yup - ST1.3 and 2.0 both allow you to do all of the things you mentioned - HR, Distance, Speed, Cadance, Elevation, Temperature, etc...versus any other paramter. Basically you can build your own graphs using any set of parameters you'd like (adding in multiple layers if you choose). There are also a slew of prebuilt reports as well you can generate.

Check it out - it's free and has no whacky shareware or other stuff littered into it.

http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/index.html

Btw, also check out the forums - tons - and I mean TONS of good info in there as well.

Good luck! And if you have any questions, feel free to ping me at my e-mail address (on the right hand side of the main page).

Bill January 19, 2008 11:03 AM  

Excellent review. I've been thinking about doing one, comparing the 305 to my previously used Suunto T6. But I don't think it'll happen.

Spot on about Training Center v. SportTracks. The difference is amazing.

Buck February 17, 2008 8:25 PM  

I just ordered the 305 and am excited about receiving and using it.

Can multiple user profiles be created so that my wife can use it also and record her training data separate from mine?

Jeff March 29, 2008 9:54 AM  

I've just moved from Colorado to Charlotte and am constantly getting lost on rides. Will this unit help me follow a road course during a ride? If so, I'm buying one today.

Rainmaker March 30, 2008 11:10 PM  

Buck - I'm not aware of a way to split it out on the watch itself, but easily you can split out seperate Athletes in Sports Tracks.


Jeff - You can indeed program routes into the watch - but I've honestly never used it that way. Most cyclists will get the Edge one instead, which includes map overlays. Sports Tracks worth with the Edge the same was as the Forerunner series. The Edge is from Garmin.

Dave April 18, 2008 10:44 PM  

I noticed that most of your satellite photos were around DC. Do you have any problem with the signal in the summer with leaves on the tress in areas like the C&O or W&OD trail? I do most of my miles in the trails around town and worry about getting frustrated with a lost signal.

Rainmaker April 18, 2008 10:52 PM  

Nope. No problems at all on the W&OD or the C&O. I usually do the W&OD at least once a week, and teh C&O every once in a while. The only place I've ever had issues with signal and trees is in trail running situations where I make a nubmer of tight switchbacks. In those cases it doesn't always pick up the turns as much as I'd like. But overall no issues with any of the major trails in the DC area.

B.M. July 28, 2008 10:59 PM  

Excellent review! I just got my Forerunner 305 a little over a week ago and LOVE it. The only thing I'd like to change, and I'm wondering if you know of a way to do so, is to change the week starting day (in history) from Sunday to Monday. I've always preferred to start my training weeks on Monday and have them end on Sunday. Any ideas? Thanks again!

Rainmaker August 3, 2008 10:22 PM  

Hi B.M. - I don't see a way to do it in Garmin Training Center. But in Sports Tracks the default is Monday, and you can change the week's starting day to any day under the options menu. Hope this helps.

John August 14, 2008 8:07 PM  

Thanks for the review. I just picked one up. I guess the 405 didn't get great reviews.

I've only used it twice so far, but I'm liking the 305.

Thanks again.

Anonymous December 29, 2008 2:38 PM  

I am torn between getting a 305 or 405. After reading your excellent comments, I am leaning toward the 305. However, I am looking for more information on cadence for both running and biking. From the Garmin website, it looks like the 405 will do both but the 305 will only do cadence for the bike. Is this true?

Also, what about the battery life for a full ironman - any options to make it last the distance?

Rainmaker December 29, 2008 9:56 PM  

RE: Cadennce

Both the 305 and the 405 equally do cadence on the bike and the run. You can use either the newer or older footpod for running with either device. I have both footpods and they both work with both devices. :)

As for an Ironman - I used my 305 and it just barely held on to last my Ironman (used on bike/run). There's a person out there who modified the charging cradle to use a 10V battery instead to last his longer IM time. Here ya go: http://www.jwshale.com/cycling/qr_battery/qr_battery.html

I haven't tried it myself, but it looks like it should work.

Anonymous January 8, 2009 6:27 PM  

I got a 405 for xmas and after having a hard time getting it to work on my computer I returned it. I think the watch is great but it was very uncomfortable for me. It has a stiff band on your wrist. I have the 301 and have had no problems with it. I ordered the 305 and received it in the mail today. I have not taken it out on a run yet but I wore it for awhile and hardly noticed it. I got it at costco.com for $160 after a $40 coupon. I ordered the footpod but have not received it yet.

jondrew January 15, 2009 9:04 AM  

I just got my Forerunner 305 yesterday and did a test run this morning. I bought my wife an Edge 305 for Christmas (she bikes exclusively and doesnt run anymore)I was torn about getting the Forerunner as it looked so big and clunky in pictures. I stopped by a local running store that carried the Forerunner and tried one on. I was pleasently suprised as it did not seem as big on my wrist (medium build male)as I had feared. I immediatly ordred one from Amazon (sorry brick and mortar stores, I cant justify paying $320 at your store when Amazon sells the same thing for $160 with shipping and no tax). Anyway, I run, bike and inline skate. I also go spinning at the YMCA a couple of days a week with my wife. I like the Forerunner because I can set the display up to show only 1 data field (Heart Rate) and the numbers are big enough that I can read it in dim light without wearing my glasses (old eyes).
I have one question. You say you have the foot pod for cadence (running I assume)Would the foot pod provide cadence while biking or spinning? I've ordered a Speed/Cadence sensor for my road bike, but it would be neat to be able to use a footpod for spinning cadence.

Rainmaker January 15, 2009 9:08 AM  

RE: "You say you have the foot pod for cadence (running I assume)Would the foot pod provide cadence while biking or spinning? I've ordered a Speed/Cadence sensor for my road bike, but it would be neat to be able to use a footpod for spinning cadence."

It's unfortunately two different sensors - one that goes on your shoe like a little pod and is designed to measure both distance and turnover. Whereas the one for your bike has a magnet on both the spoke and crank, and measures RPM and speed.

That said, I have seen cases where if I was riding my bike with my running shoes on and it had the footpod on I get some interesting data. Not useful data mind you - just a bunch of random semi-garbage data. But worthwhile pointing out. ;)

Hope this helps!

jondrew January 15, 2009 12:57 PM  

Thanks. My guess is that the footpod would have to register the impact between your shoe and the ground to "complete the stride cycle".
One other gripe I have about the Garmin unit is that HRM sensor and footpod appears to not be compatable with other brands (Polar for example. I know that when I go to the Y and use the Treadmill or Eliptical my polar HRM strap works with those devices so I dont have to grab the bars to get my heart rate.
My Polar S1 footpod does not pair with the 305 (I beleive the garmin and polar footpods are made by the same company), so if I do want to get a footpod I'll have to buy Garmin's.
I've owned Garmin products for a long time and have a definite love/hate relationship with them. I can see by your review of the 405 one could wonder how they would bring something like this to market given the issues you and others have mentioned (look on the user reviews for the 405 on Amazon).
Overall I think the 305 will be a good purchase and a nice training/data recording aid.

Anonymous January 18, 2009 9:53 PM  

How do I change my 305 to see a large view of my heart rate, it so small to view on a bike or running ?

Anonymous January 18, 2009 9:56 PM  

Where and how did you get a rebate on the 305 ?

Rainmaker January 18, 2009 10:02 PM  

To change your views, simply go under the Data Fields option in General, and from there you'll be able to modify what screens appear on each display. Your best bet is to make a screen with three different data fields, and place the HR on the biggest of the three.

The rebates are unfortunately gone at this point, although they do appear rather frequently. They are usually listed here: http://www.garmin.com/whatsNew/currentpromotions/

T January 22, 2009 6:17 PM  

great review - i'm about to pony up for a 305 - looks great. i'm gonna use it to track my kitesurfing sessions. i imagine the GPS should come in nicely on open water but i'm concerned about your comment about switchbacks. kitesurfing has a lot of stop and go (jumps, quick turns, etc.) >> am i going to get a reliable route at the end of the day? i didn't find anywhere the precision of the GPS receiver and how often it picks up a coordinate. do you have that info? precise to 1m or 10m? picks up every 1s or 10s?
thanks.

Rainmaker January 26, 2009 12:06 AM  

Sorry T for the delay in responding:

"i'm gonna use it to track my kitesurfing sessions. i imagine the GPS should come in nicely on open water but i'm concerned about your comment about switchbacks. kitesurfing has a lot of stop and go (jumps, quick turns, etc.) >> am i going to get a reliable route at the end of the day?"

Yes, you should get a fairly reliable route. I've taken it skiing (at fast paces, turns etc..) without too much issue. My only concern with kitesurfing would be ensuring that you do NOT use the quick release mount (which you would have to buy seperately), as it would easily pop off. But to instead use the strap that it comes with. Also, the only other thing I could think about is that it's slightly bulky compared to the 405 - but with the water, speed, etc... the 405 would be a pain to operate - but would be more streamlined. Just my two cents.


"i didn't find anywhere the precision of the GPS receiver and how often it picks up a coordinate. do you have that info? picks up every 1s or 10s?
"

It has two different settings - a 'smart record' or you can specify how often'. But eseentially it works out to between once every 1 and 4 seconds depending on turns. In Smart recording mode the GPS sensing if it's changed directions and records new coordinates. Otherwise, you can specify to record at a static every 1 second, but it reduces the time down to 3.5 hours.

"precise to 1m or 10m?"

The manual says 10m, but below that would be more accurate, as I can do track workouts without issue and it shows a very clear circle. Plus, I can see which side of the road I'm on on a simple two-lane road with sidewalks on either side. Whereas 10m would be beyond that. So i'd guess the average 1-4m.

Hope this helps!

Donald February 2, 2009 2:52 PM  

Very informative review. It confirms my experience on a month or so. Is there any way to jump back to the regular timing display after being deep in the menus without having to push the mode button multiple times? Perhaps I missed something in the manual, but I can't seem to back out without multiple pushes.

Rainmaker February 3, 2009 11:44 PM  

Donald: "Is there any way to jump back to the regular timing display after being deep in the menus without having to push the mode button multiple times?"

Hi Donald - Nope, I'm not aware of any quick way unfortunately, I have the same problem quite a bit.

Mick February 18, 2009 12:40 AM  

Mr. Rainmaker ~ I've tried using my 305 under my swim cap 3 times. The first two times the unit locked up. The third time was successful. I think one or both of the buttons on the face may have gotten pushed continually. It responds fine after turning off & on again.

Have you had any problems with your 305 locking up?

Thanks.

Patrick March 5, 2009 9:50 AM  

Love your blog. I have used many of your experiences with the 305 FR for my own and agree it is a great watch especially with Sport tracks. You mentioned you set it up to automatically change over sports in transition in triathlons. Did you ever discuss how you actually did this? Very interested in doing this as well.

Mick March 5, 2009 10:16 AM  

Patrick ~ I've used the auto transition feature & it works pretty well. In the "training options" screen there is a setting for 'auto transition'. If you set that up (how many sports, include transitions or not & in which order) and turn it on, when you are ready to start your workout just hit the start button as you normally would. Each time you proceed either to a transition or the next sport just hit the "Lap" button. For example, if you have it set to include transitions and three sports, starting with "other", then "bike", then "run", when you hit the start button it will start the timer for the other (swim). When you come out of the water hit the lap button & it will start tracking your first transition. When you start your bike hit lap again & it starts a new timer for your bike. So on & so forth. Just be sure to remember where your start button is if you have it under your swim cap. I thought it was on the other side & didn't start the timer for my swim. Also pay attention to hitting the lap button just once. I hit mine by accident more than once & it proceeded to the next phase & ended the cycle early.

Gerald Babao April 13, 2009 4:34 PM  

Any suggestion re: software for Mac (apple) users? Thank youl

Rainmaker April 14, 2009 10:53 AM  

"Any suggestion re: software for Mac (apple) users?"

I usually use Sports Tracks, but it doesn't appear that supports macs.

While I don't have a mac, but it does look like Garmin has at least GTC (Garmin Training Center) for Mac (which is free):
http://www8.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=010-00467-00

Also - after checking out this page:
http://forums.motionbased.com/smf/index.php?board=59.0

It looks like some folks are happy with: http://montebellosoftware.com/-which looks pretty cool and works on a Mac.

Hope this helps!

Anonymous May 7, 2009 9:45 AM  

Rainmaker,

On pictures of the 305 i see that the heartrate is displayed realy small. Can the 305 be configured so that the heartrate is displayed in one of de 4 bigger displayfields ?

thx,
da_bartman

Rainmaker May 9, 2009 11:08 AM  

Hi Da-

Yes, absolutely. In fact, you can arrange it a number of ways. The most common one I do for races is a three-field display where I put the HR up top taking up the entire top half of the screen, and then down below two little boxes showing distances/pace.

Hope this helps!

Anonymous June 25, 2009 2:52 PM  

Hello,

I like your write-up, very helpful in getting used to my new Forerunner.

You mentioned a ZIP file of about 100 DC bike routes in KML format... can you post it or provide a link? I want to explore the bicycle trails in Google Earth because I'm relatively new to biking in the DC area.

Thanks

Jilani June 25, 2009 5:29 PM  

Hey Ray,

I've had my 305 for 2 years and also love it. Two questions:

1) In my experience, the elevation data is pretty much inaccurate (gain/loss on a ride); I've exported my routes to Google Earth but can't seem to figure out how to get Google Earth to tell me what the elevation change was on the route -- any way of doing that?

2) Is there a way to show average pace on a lap? I do tempo workouts with it and would love to see pace for a split, but can only seem to get it to show average pace for the total run. I've gone through the potential categories and even the obvious ones (pace: lap average) don't seem to give the right data....

Thanks - great post, as always!

Jilani

Mathew June 27, 2009 12:36 PM  

Can the Forerunner 305 be used as a watch also? In other words, does it show the time of day on it?

Rainmaker June 27, 2009 1:16 PM  

Hi Matthew-

Yup, the 305 can display 'Time of day' as one of the data fields you can add to the watch. So if you wanted to you could make one of the three rotating screens show just time of day, or show time of day and any other parameter.

Hope this helps!

Rainmaker June 29, 2009 5:27 PM  

RE: Bike Routes KML file -

Here's the zip file with all the bike routes in DC. I'm not sure where I got it from, so I can't take credit for it and apologize to whomever originally created it.

http://sites.google.com/site/dcrainmakerblog/file-uploads/DCBikeRoutes.kml

RE: Jilani's questions:

1) Elevation - Indeed, the 305 uses GPS elevation as opposed to barometric, such as the 705 does. As such, smaller deviations in elevation tend to be over-rated, whereas larger differentiations (like a mountain) are more accurate. I use Sports Tracks and the Sports Tracks elevation plugin to correct all elevation with NASA's elevation data - much more accurate and generally dead on. As for Goggle Earth, I'm not sure on how to do that exactly.

2) Lap Pace - It's odd that it's not showing correctly for you. I use it all the time in races and on the track to judge pacing per lap for tempo's, etc.. Do you have auto-lap set by chance, that might mess with it (as it would autolap every mile).

Hope this helps!

Sarita Emilia June 30, 2009 3:32 PM  

too bad that 2.9 firmware update fried my 305! At least Garmin is replacing it...

Anonymous July 1, 2009 3:03 PM  

Nice review. Your blog is primarily why I decided to go with the 305. I do have a question about the 305 and SportTRacks. On occasion I do use the 305 as a "stopwatch" when doing indoor pool swims. Pretty much put it on "Other" setting then hit start when I begin swimming and stop when I'm done.

Problem is SportTraks doesnt seem to be uploading any data from things recorded as "Other"

Do you have a work around for this?

Thanks

BrandonW July 3, 2009 3:32 PM  

Great blog Rainmaker,

I've purchased the 305 on your rec and have enjoyed the functionability and data analysis for multi-sports (and of course, the price can't be beat right now). I am planning to get my wife one so that she can use it training for the NYC marathon.

Question: Does SportTracks have the ability to share data amongst "friends"? This would be great to interact with my cohorts during training. Thanks for the reply - cheers.

-Brandon

Rainmaker July 4, 2009 1:07 AM  

Hi Anon and Brandon-

Re: Using it as a stopwatch.

I don't have any issues uploading these 'blank' files, do they showup in your list of events available to import? If they do, then from there you need to change to the splits view, and then change the dropdown to 'Recorded Laps/Splits', to show your splits versus the standard mile/km view. Hope this helps some! Also, one thing you may want to try on the 305 is turning off the GPS when indoors (under settings).

Re: Sharing with friends

With Sports Tracks you can export out Fitlog files, but that's kinda cumbersome and really not a solid solution. A better one that a friend mentioned is to use RunSaturday.com, which has a Sports Tracks plugin that apparnetly auto-exports out to a website where you can then share them amongst friends. Here's the link to the Sports Tracks plugin:

http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/Plugins/plugin_detail.php?id=108

cgtriathlete July 7, 2009 8:40 PM  

great review (the 305 and 405). i appreciate our time in putting these together, along with your insight.

janetts July 8, 2009 8:02 PM  

Thank you so much for this review. I just bought my Garmin 305, and it's currently in the cradle charging. I'm getting more and more excited about all of the things I'll be able to do with it.

Jesse July 13, 2009 11:22 AM  

DCR - Great review. I have borrowed a neighbors for my last two runs, including a 9-miler on a trail that I have never been on before and really does not have any markers. I was heavily considering buying one, and your blog put me over the top. He had only showed me how you use it real quick, but I had no idea about all the features until reading your notes. Thanks!! (my wife might not thank you after I spend the money, but I'll bet she uses it)

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